The tornado, or both? * russia bias means they probably have a lot easier access to russian equipment for studying/modelling in game purposes then other nations equipment. Long awaited CAS option for Italian top tier. All rights reserved. However, these didnt give good takeoff and landing performance, as they required high speeds, and thus long runways. The name of this man, is Barnes Wallis. Taking an active role in air-to-air combat is not advised, as the Tornado's flight performance is not suited to it and you'll most likely be shot down very quickly. It's nothing new, current TV-guided bombs can already be yeeted from 30km away thanks to the amazing physics of this game (gotta make sure SAMs are unable to hit flying targets though, don't mind the intercontinental gliding bombs). After some political shuffling, the United Kingdom joined the program joined as Canada and Belgium left. The other tactic would be to go full throttle directly to the enemy bases while keeping extremely low to the ground to decrease your chances of being spotted visually or by radar. Some videos I forgot to put in the main post: Yes, I'd love to see the Tornado in more games personally. but why does the teledyne ags have c76a1, ammo it never would have, and in game has awful spalling. Service: Everything about the HRE, GC's, GE, WR, GR, SP, FRG and GDR, Documenting the Emergency Turret Ejection System, Marketing waffleproducts. In 1970 however, the Netherlands also abandoned the project as the design was deemed to not fit the requirements of the RNLAF. Lets get to know the famous Tonka a bit better, shall we? The Tornado has no armour to speak of and is relatively large, making it an easy target for enemy guns. The first flight took place on August 14, 1974 in Manching (Germany). Very cool. Tasks highlighted in blue can be completed not only on vehicles of rank III and higher, but also on any event vehicles of lower rank which were obtained as part of major game events. Its been some time coming and a lot of work and effort has gone into it. If the Cold War ever went hot, Tornados would have been scrambled from their bases in Germany, and charge towards the Inner German Border, and thus the heart of the Warsaw Pact. This post was for people who think the F.3 is the British Tomcat.. its not its a English Electric Lightning on steroids :3, Scan this QR code to download the app now. Germany made the center fuselage and air intakes, and Italy made the wings. The following year, Turbo Union was founded to create an engine for the new program. Apparently, the WT Game Devs have also stated that licensing would not be a huge issue either. However, they were some of the most experienced pilots in the RAF, and quickly rose up to the challenge. F4F from the very same tech tree - "Am I a joke to you? by Tony Buttler, Typhoon to Typhoon: RAF Air Support Projects and Weapons Since 1945 They would have attacked airbases, SAM and radar sites, command centres and supply and communication lines. By Examine the survivability of the aircraft. It was an unusual aircraft, with a flat arrowhead design, with now vertical stabilisers, no fuselage, VG wings and four large jet engines that swivelled to keep them looking forward when the wing was swept back. Germany received 359 tornadoes from 1980 to 1991. The ADV variant is very much within our plans to come. Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. If you only have dumb bombs you're going to need to stick to the ground as much as possibile to avoid enemy AA, you can't linger too much on the battlefield or else the enemy team will begin to prioratise you as a target. Thanks to such impressive flight characteristics, the Tornado can quickly get in and out of trouble and also escape pursuing aircraft. Wind gusts of 90 to 110 kilometres an hour and . Variable wings as well and who doesn't love those? To receive a Star you need to complete any 3 tasks from 5 for the respective type of vehicles. Help allies 12 times to destroy enemy vehicles. Line drawing of the MRCA; the dawn of the Tornado is here. already has been [Devblog] Winter event vehicles: Tornado IDS Marineflieger, https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Tornado_IDS_(Germany)&oldid=163611, * Bombs on hardpoint 6 cannot be equipped in conjunction with dual bomb mounts on hardpoints 4-8, 2 x 27 mm Mauser BK27 cannons, chin-mounted (180 rpg = 360 total), 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (7,000 lb total), 12 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (12,000 lb total), 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total), Return to base, resupply and continue bombing. just saying F-100 bombtrucking is winning these games. but again, im suggesting here the Ground Attack variant of the german Tornado not the UK's ADV, Tornado GR4 speed at sea level:1,482km/h:921mph, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panavia_Tornado#Specifications_(Tornado_GR4), MiG-29 speed at low altitude:1,500 km/h; 930 mph, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-29#Specifications_(MiG-29). I understand such vehicles take a long time to make but some more substantial mods (the Tribal at least plays different) would be nice. Privacy Policy. They keep adding these stupid russian anti submarine boats nobody cares about. Hey guys! Thank you Smin for answering peoples questions. M.C. I would like to see this but I've heard Panavia are real hardass about not letting video games use their planes (jerks). Meaning that f-16s and mig-29 are going to demolish them in air RB. The exchange is available in the Workshop - Exchange items Operation W.I.N.T.E.R. PlayStation and Xbox players will be able to exchange decal coupons for similar ones. Large or small, they can uproot trees, flip cars and demolish houses. Cause 30,000 damage whilst controlling a naval vessel. you cant fool that AAM, good joke m8, try again. At this point, with advancements in jet engine performance, aircraft speeds were increasing. Vehicles, Of the new planes coming this is the one I'm looking forward to the most. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. So you have my support. Introduction: Just be sure to use Event vehicles. @dotEXCELI like the suggestion and I hope when it's time that the Tornado comes forALLnations that used it. Tornadoes are a type of severe storm. This video will be talking about whether the Tornado AVD will be balanced when it is released inside war thunder. It's the 2nd google result.your's is the third, and a reddit post from 2021 is the 1st =/. @Gunjob a copy of the aircrew manuals. Yeah agreed it was a joint project and should be implemented as such, and doing otherwise is just a bad move, http://www.dstorm.eu/pictures/nose-arts/tornado/gb/mig_eater_9.jpg, We defenetly need that as a decal/Skin when we get the GR.1. Now it is 9.7. The equipment of the task forces in Great Britain and Germany began in 1982, followed in 1984 by Italy, and in 1986 the only export customer, Saudi Arabia. They are typified by a funnel-shaped cloud descending toward the earth. Download Wallpaper: 1920x1080. The Tornados were doing what they were designed for: leading the spearhead, against the most difficult targets. Back in my day, we didn't have fancy tanks! By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. But it should also be noted in regards to "yada yada military secrets", that the Tornado What does however, make the Tornados armament stand out is its selection of suspended ordnance options. Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 (Mac), or analog from AMD/Nvidia for Mac. In the wake of the cancellations of both the TSR.2 and F-111K, and in the face of ever improving Soviet air defences, the need for a modern strike aircraft was becoming evermore urgent. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Production of the Tornado followed in 1976 and continued until 1998 where 990 units of the Tornado were produced across all variants. Event vehicles of ranks IV-VII and decals will be issued in the form of coupons while premium vehicles of ranks II, decorations and camouflages will be immediately activated on the account. Tcm in 9.3 is nothing special. The various modifications of the Tornado IDS will be making their way to the top rank of the British, German and Italian aviation trees with the arrival of the next major War Thunder update, Apex Predators. The age of the Tornado has come. The Tonka gets even better: Though the GR.1 was a brilliant aircraft, it had some shortcomings, and by the mid-90's, it required some updates. With countermeasures you are able to survive for longer if you can time their use and can dodge without losing too much of your speed. Missed Stars can be purchased in the Achievement window until the 13th of January (11:00 GMT), 2022. Reddit, Inc. 2023. Video Card: NVIDIA 660 with latest proprietary drivers (not older than 6 months) / similar AMD with latest proprietary drivers (not older than 6 months; the minimum supported resolution for the game is 720p) with Vulkan support. 10 December 2021 Event. The RAF museum was happy to sell and our Germany already has enough NATO vehicles. Tornado IDS (GR.1), strike aircraft, Britain/Germany/Italy, Rank VIII. Activate all 8 decal coupons on your account to receive 9th decal. M.C. You can purchase Stars with Golden Eagles without even completing a task until January the 13th, 2022 in the menu: Nickname Achievements Operation W.I.N.T.E.R. I decided to post here solely to deliver that message pretty much. The Tornado is, as noted already, a swing-wing aircraft, thus providing it with optimum performance in all speed regimes. With fogand night, those are rare for WT battles. This arrived in 1997 as the GR.4, making an already potent machine, even more powerful. The gun armament in the IDS variant consists of two Mauser BK-27 revolvercannons, the other armament options ranged from unguided bombs over guided air-to-air missiles all the way to cruise missiles and bomblet dispenser pods (see picture above) for anti-runway use. Both Tornado and MiG-29 eventually, the former in the West German line with the F-4Fs, and the latter in the East German line after the MiG-21 and 23. These tend to have a very poor accuracy at long range, just locking the ground instead of targets. This arrived in 1997 as the GR.4, making an already potent machine, even more powerful. Such as winter and summer marathons, WWII chronicles, BP seasons and craft marathons. The Tornado was the last combat plane of the German naval aviation, and naval Tornado pilots have quite a bit of pride for flying a jet while not being in the air force. The Bundeswehr Navy used the variants IDS, Recce, and ECR. Despite this, Panavia Aircraft GmbH was formed from parts of the British Aircraft Corporation, Messerschmitt-Blkow-Blohm and Aeritalia with the workload split evenly between the nations and their respective companies. the ADV F3 features the AI.24 Foxhunter-Radar and the MK-104 Engines for higher Alt's In 1968, a requirement was drawn up called the Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MRCA) by Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium and Canada. The Tornado was the culmination of decades of work on Variable Geometry (VG) technology, and development in the area of the low-level strike aircraft that came together to create one of the most formidable strike aircraft ever fielded, as well as a beautiful piece of engineering. There were two crew members: a pilot in the front, and a weapons system officer in the back. Is it so hard to make a unique naval reward? Design: F-16 wasn't used by Germany, however there is the potential for a variant be added as a Dutch or Austrian model. Although it could in theory make its way back to base even with only one engine, any enemy attention during this timespan will most likely get you sent back to the hangar. Since it became very clear right from the onset that . I said they never exported bolt-on countermeasure systems for the MiG-23MF. OS: Most modern 64bit Linux distributions. I hope to eventually write a follow-up suggestion for the GR.1B and GR.4 respectively, hopefully soon, but I'll be very busy for the next month. It's modern enough that people who grew up with it or flew it could still . Just it wont be within this patch. Hardpoints: Guns:2 27mm (1.06in)Mauser BK-27revolver cannon internally mounted under starboard side of fuselage with 180 rounds The engines were extremely powerful for their size and weight, being half the weight of comparable designs, thus improving maintenance. At other times the tornado is small, touching down here and there. Aircraft designers and aerodynamicists worked tirelessly to come up with solutions to gain the best performance out of their aircraft. These are basically TV missiles right ? After Canada and Belgium left the working group, the remaining nations proceeded to form an international consortium - the Panavia Aircraft GmbH - which would develop and manufacture the new aircraft. I think the MiG-29 can carry bombs as well, so if you want to bomb with the MiG-29, you will still have a much better fighter afterwords. Commenting is no longer available for this news, This site uses cookies to analyse traffic and for anonymous statistics. Meanwhile, the UK had a need to replace its aging Canberras with something more appropriate,and all attempts to do so failed, ultimately resulting in the UK joining the F-104 Replacement program. So given that brits are finally getting a adv.. most likely the F3 I just want to say a few things for people who dont realise what the ADV was. These projects became the Swallow, as well as a number of related types, similar in design. You will receive an award by collecting the specified number of stars in the appropriate vehicle type. This was in an effort to give it a degree of rough field capability, allowing it to operate from roads or damaged airbases, at least, in theory. Mk.13 bombs (4,000 lb total), 7 x 1,000 lb H.E. The bombs and rockets will slow the plane down even more (Tornado is slower than the MiG-29), and it will be like the F9F trying to bomb AAA. Video Card: Radeon Vega II or higher with Metal support. and found some absolutely gorgeous images of the Tornado. @Gunjob a copy of the aircrew manuals. This video will be talking about whether the Tornado AVD will be balanced when it is released inside war thunder. In 1976, the aircraft, previously known as the MRCA, was given the name Tornado. Win the battle in first place in naval battles. You should consider yourself very lucky marines! The definition phase began in 1969, requirements were placed on the new aircraft. never denied that they could carry bombs, but we were talking about the ADV F.3, bombs are not the regular loadout, which is explained in the german Doku i linked as well. Hey guys, Today we take a look on why the Tornado needs to come NOW! New opportunity to learn I suppose! So yes, as I opened my post with. Along with the swing-wing, the Tornado came with thrust-reversers, that allow for a shorter take-off and landing roll as compared to other aircraft of similar size and weight. thats why i made the poll, didnt i? For stars, you can get 7 coupons for Female Warriors decals and the 8th coupon for one of the decals is waiting for you on our social media! Processor: Intel Core i5 or Ryzen 5 3600 and better, Video Card: DirectX 11 level video card or higher and drivers: Nvidia GeForce 1060 and higher, Radeon RX 570 and higher, Processor: Core i5, minimum 2.2GHz (Intel Xeon is not supported). on deck, the tornado is faster which is the area were its supposed to operate. Upon obtaining the aircraft, pilots will have access to a pair of 27mm cannons with 180 rounds of ammunition available per gun. In the latter part of the Second World War, and continuing on into the 1950s, he worked on a multitude of projects, most notably ones regarding VG wing development. The stryker mgs has gen 3 thermals and m900, and they are moving it every patch. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. Featuring variable geometry wings and supersonic capabilities, the Tornado might be a strike aircraft by designation but thanks to its incredible versatility, it can certainly get a lot more done than that! Eventually it was cancelled or replaced the Tornado. now just give us the later Buccaneers and we'll be golden. Now listen up! Though the design of the Variable Geometry wing (referred to as VG-wing from here for the sake of simplicity), cannot be attributed to a single person, the name of one man will stick out in particular in this story. Great choice for the first 4th gen jet for the next patch. In 1968, several countries including West Germany, Canada, Belgium, Netherlands and Italy formed a working group to explore possible options of replacing the F-104 Starfighter that all nations had in service at the time. Sometimes they move quickly (up to 70 km/hour) and leave a long, wide path of destruction. TLDR: The F.3 will probably not be the saviour of the British tree, if you dont enjoy the GR1 because its sluggish and cant turn dont expect to enjoy the F.3. already has been In War Thunder, the Tornado IDS (or GR.1 in service with the RAF) will be the new top strike aircraft awaiting veteran pilots at rank VIII of the British, German and Italian aviation trees following the release of the next major update, Apex Predators. In 1968, the Netherlands, Canada, and Belgium left the project and the remaining nations signed an initial agreement. Datamining also hasnt revealed any possiblity of tornado as of yet for any of the supporting nations. Like an F-14 yet sleeker, more form, more shape. In conclusion, play a reserved role and only engage when you think its clear. If you think "I wanna dogfight" when playing the IDS, the ADV ain't for you.. however if you can get 2 missile kills, and think "damn if only I had more missiles" the F3 will solve that for you. The idea was to create a platform that could replace various types in each respective country, namely the F-104. Now while these guns are certainly useful for strafing ground targets and blasting enemy pilots out of the sky during intense dogfights, they alone dont define the Tornados arsenal. Would you like to see the Panavia Tornado GR.1 in game? by Chris Gibson, The Tornado Story Don't get me wrong, the Tornado is a nice aircraft. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. For more information, please see our It is noticed and appreciated. For more information, please see our The aim 9ls are nice as well especially in a downtier. The ADV is in development. TLDR: The F.3 will probably not be the saviour of the . Weaponry, The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Great War to today. Win 7 battles in Naval battles (with an activity of 70% or higher). This page was last edited on 3 June 2023, at 05:42. but instead you guys opted to give a TT that's desperate for a good top tier plane, a plane that's 100% Dead on Arrival. i'm just too lazy to write 3 suggestions in 3 different subforums. be my guest and make them there as well. I'm betting you're giving unhistorical countermeasures that were never exported to Germany which were also unwired for the MiG-23MF to that plane. I was genuinely surprised that this fine aircraft hadn't been suggested earlier. The tasks will not change and will be reset every 2 days at 11:00 GMT. Note:This variant is also avaiable for the UK and Italy. I guess Germany will get the Tornado this update, and further down the line they will get the Mig 29. We will also discuss when the aircraft will be released in the game. This page was last edited on 19 March 2023, at 00:12. The Tornado F.3 was added to Prepar3D last year, so getting the tornado in video games isn't impossible. Ultimately, however, the decision was made to have two seats. I mean, most of it overlaps But there is one thing that seperates them. Though the GR.1 was a brilliant aircraft, it had some shortcomings, and by the mid-90s, it required some updates. One thing I must add is that the Tornado must be simultaneously added to all possible trees at the same time. in games. Apart from its excellent flight characteristics that bring it on par with some interceptors and fighters, it's also due to its lethal weapons arsenal. Sadly, I can't see of a way which this data link could be added to Air RB, (other then removing the sharing part spotting system, so only personal spotting can be seen without datalink and the current version is what it would be like with Data-link). History, It has worse ground attack than the F15, isn't exactly fast and has worse suspended weapons than the harrier. Until then, clear skies and happy hunting pilots! Iraqs illegal invasion of Kuwait led to a storm; a Desert Storm. The exact terms of the achievement can be found in the game client by clicking on your nickname Achievements Operation W.I.N.T.E.R. The option of trading each coupon separately depends on the time of its receipt and doesnt depend on the vehicle coupon. It's not completely a German built aircraft, and won't be exclusive. Part of me wants this to be added into the game, but part of me doesn't because I know it won't live up to my dreams of it. As the conflict wore on, they were used for bombing raids against command and communication centres, as well as keeping airbases out of repair, the former of which was often dispatched via guided bombs. NCD's aeromorphs are more often human in appearence with some additional details to resemble the plane, like Azur Lane does.. Aeromorph's creations are closer to the plane side, quite literally being the aircraft in question but shaped as a human while retaining the metal skin and all that. It's no British plane. The Panavia Tornado is one of the most iconic German used post-war jets out there. Drop 12 tons of Bomb TNT on enemy bases in total. On 27/04/2022 at 13:29, AVROVULCANXH558 said: On 01/05/2022 at 11:30, AVROVULCANXH558 said: 1. Such a diverse arsenal allows the Tornado to not only inflict great damage to hostile ground troops but it can almost immediately switch to combat air patrol duties and provide air cover for its allies once the strike weapons have been expended. But the Panavia HQ is located in Germanyso maybe there should be no German plane in the British tree? All rights reserved. Video Card: NVIDIA 1060 with latest proprietary drivers (not older than 6 months) / similar AMD (Radeon RX 570) with latest proprietary drivers (not older than 6 months) with Vulkan support. So, I think it will be used by all three of these countries in WT. Just for additional clarification, much like the F-4F, a later modification of the MiG-23 will be added to the German tree in a future update. and our We will also discuss when the aircraft will. Su-25T and the pre-order of the Su-39: Sergey Strikes Back! Maintenance was made easier by around 400 access panels. So there won't be any native or exclusive planes for Germany in their modern arsenal. Downtown Regina after the tornado struck in 1912. with a battle rating of 11.3 (AB/RB/SB). Well, it will be pretty bad, the F4D is less then 20 now. To get one Star you need to perform any 3 tasks from 5 in random battles (in vehicles of rank III or higher). 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. I don't see why we need a British plane in the German tree. Thus, the UK and France began working on a joint program called AFVG. Scan this QR code to download the app now. British Secret Projects 1: Jet Fighters since 1950 During its service as part of the RAF, the Luftwaffe and the Aeronautica Militare, the Tornado took part in numerous combat operations in Iraq, Bosnia, Kosovo, Libya as well as in smaller conflicts in the Middle East such as in Yemen, Afghanistan and Syria. We will also take a look at the different types of weaponry that the aircraft could get in the game, and if it would actually be balanced.In the video, there will also be examples of the Tornado AVD performing against jets that we already have in-game, to fully illustrate the potential of the aircraft compared to what we have. ***Join The Squadron *** AeroTurtle Discord: https://discord.gg/tgjfNjtzCmMusicSo its Project Wingman SHOWDOWN but it actually Project SynthmanSo its Ace Combat Assault Horizon WHITE DEVIL aka Synth Devil So its Project Wingman SHOWDOWN but its actually Project Synthman RECOMMENDED VIDEOS/PLAYLISTS https://youtu.be/x2yBepk2EA8 SU-25 Video https://youtu.be/Su2tOCz2u38 F-15 Video TOPICS IN THIS VIDEO Tornado ADV Tornado 4th gen aircraft War Thunder HASHTAGS #warthunder#warthundertornado#warthundertornadoadv#warthunder4thgen The tornado that struck the core of Regina on 30 June 1912 killed 28 persons and caused $6 million in damages. Help allies 25 times to destroy enemy vehicles. In a dogfight between a Tornado and F-14, F-14's would win. Yeah, thanks for free kills at top tier Gaijin! Conclusion: 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. The ADV variant is already in development. GR.4 was a mid-life upgrade program after the GR.1. 3 under-fuselage and 4 under-wing pylon stationswith a capacity of 9,000kg (19,800lb). In the meantime, make sure to keep scanning the horizon for more news as we continue unveiling what else the upcoming update has in store for our players. Cookie Notice I absolutely want to see this one more. These range from later models of the AIM-9L Sidewinder air-to-air missile over laser-guided bombs to more conventional freefall bombs of various calibres. 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Like other aircraft outfitted with this feature, the Tornado can boast its optimal aerodynamics both during subsonic and supersonic flight, thus ensuring excellent handling characteristics at all speeds. Do you want the Panavia Tornado to appear in the game. Tornado watches and severe thunderstorm warnings have been issued across parts of Southern Quebec and Eastern Ontario for Thursday afternoon. uses wiki as source i linked the flight manual, check there. i really hope the add the ADV version for italy and UK. by John Christopher, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceN_b-XFQYI&ab_channel=MilitaryAviationHistory, https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a27073869/panavia-tornado/, https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/38745/how-british-tornados-used-a-special-weapon-to-ravage-saddams-airfields-in-daring-desert-storm-raids, https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/tornado/, https://www.panavia.de/aircraft/overview/variants/, https://www.prints-online.com/aviation-images/panavia-tornado-ids-gr-1-18404826.html, https://www.flightglobal.com/analysis/analysis-how-rafs-tornados-made-storming-contribution/131715.article, https://medium.com/raf-caps/operation-granby-and-the-dawn-of-precision-in-the-royal-air-force-a-personal-perspective-52fa7fb8b26e, http://aviadejavu.ru/Site/Crafts/Craft20330-3.htm, https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205188162, https://sirviper.com/index.php?page=fighters/tornado/tornado_ids, https://www.tornadosig.com/gulf-war-weapons.html, https://www.keymilitary.com/article/baptism-fire, https://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/documents/research/RAF-Historical-Society-Journals/Journal-27A-Seminar-Birth-of-Tornado.pdf, https://militaryanalizer.com/panavia-tornado/. The Tornado IDS joins the club of aircraft in War Thunder outfitted with variable geometry wings, also called swing winged aircraft. The Tornado became a star of this conflict, and entered the publics imagination. Five years of thorough tests and multiple prototypes later, the Tornado entered service with the RAF. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. It would make no sense for one nation to have it, when the others don't. The age of man is over. But it should also be noted in regards to "yada yada military secrets", that the Tornado And Germany has all the rights to get the Mig 29, as East Germany used Mig 29's. Afaik the . Depiction ofany real-world weapon orvehicle inthis game does not mean participation ingame development, sponsorship orendorsement byany weapon orvehicle manufacturer. Mk.13 bombs (12,000 lb total), 12 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (12,000 lb total), Bombs severely limit its maximum speed to about Mach 1.05. By completing the same task in naval battles, the task will always be counted for naval vessels. Scan this QR code to download the app now. Technology had improved since the days of both the TSR.2 and F-111K, meaning that the aircraft could be smaller, but even more potent than previously. The F3 is a missile boat, turns like a battleship but damn does it get missiles. Finally! Video Card: Radeon Vega II or higher with Metal support. Fortunately, this never happened, but the Tornado still got to prove its mettle. Well, designed for completely different roles, one's a low level interdictor, the other is an air superiority fighter and interceptor. Privacy Policy. By 1946, he already had a large portfolio of successes under his belt, including: the geodetic airframe of the Wellesley and Wellington bombers, the Highball bombs (better known as the Bounching Bombs), the Tallboy and Grand Slam Earthquake Bombs, and work on large aircraft at Vickers such as the Windsor heavy bomber. A total of 977 aircraft were manufactured. From 1990 to 1991, the German Electronic Combat and Reconnaissance variants (ECR) were produced. The MiG-29 is a interceptor,the Tornado is a multirole aircraft with emphasis on being able to do high-speed,low-level bombing even in conditions like nighttime and fog (ie-practically blind). If you want to prepare play some of the current tornados, the F3 will be an upgrade on the flight performance, missile capacity and such. Win 11 battles (with an activity of 70% or higher). Why not the ADV? We had sticks. The Tornado became a star of this conflict, and entered the public's imagination. I was genuinely surprised that this fine aircraft hadn't been suggested earlier. Note:This variant is also avaiable for the UK and Italy. +1. The F-104 replacement program was the VTOL thingy with the VAK 191 designations. It won't be an advantage. Missiles (AG): Kormoran, AGM-88 HARM, Taurus, Bombs: Mk.81/2/3, BL-755,B61 (Obviously not in WT), GBU-24/54, Other: Recce pod, MW-1, http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/aircraft/europe-and-consortiums/panavia/tornado/aer1f-pa200-1-panavia-200-tornado-flight-manual-italian-series-aircraft.html, http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/aircraft/europe-and-consortiums/panavia/tornado/aer1f-pa200-1a-panavia-200-tornado-flight-manual-performance-data-italian-series-aircraft.html, http://www.avialogs.com/index.php/aircraft/europe-and-consortiums/panavia/tornado/aer-1f-pa200is-084-1cl-1-flight-crew-checklist-tornado-is-084.html, http://www.bredow-web.de/Luftwaffenmuseum/Kampfjets/Tornado/tornado.html, http://www.military-today.com/aircraft/panavia_tornado_ids.htm, http://www.luftwaffe.de/portal/a/luftwaffe/start/waff/jets/torn/!ut/p/z1/hU67DoIwFP0WB9beikHBrcQFxYTEF3QxFWrBlJaUCn6-NU4mGs92njlAIQeq2NAIZhutmHS8oPNzHKb71I98Pz1GK5xMt5sgiuLkkPlw-hegzsY_QDDsKg6F21j82CDTMIAdUKA3NrAH6rSxklvEytdDKGqmKskzXZK3sAYqpL68rxN1mYUCqOFXbrhBd-Pk2tquX3rYw-M4IqG1kByVuvXwt0qtewv5ZxK6Nh_xLJBDSiZP4RjgsA!!/dz/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/#par8. Video Card: Intel Iris Pro 5200 (Mac), or analog from AMD/Nvidia for Mac. The time from which the coupon can be traded can be viewed in the game in the coupon description. History. Problem is: you are comparing two completely different aircraft here. It was introduced in Update "Apex Predators". The design was tested in a NACA wind tunnel in the 50s, and though it possessed good high speed performance, it was found to be unstable. The only time Tornados could beat F-14's was at long range where they could use tactics and the Tornados Datalink to gain the advantage over the F-14s. I do support this beauty. DCS, F-14B, Panavia Tornado, BMPT-72, Wiesel 1A5, Puma, Marder 2, KF-51 Panther, When on the forums I listen to Entry of the Gladiators, Modern Tanks, Modern Jets, and Modern Warfare, But it should also be noted in regards to "yada yada military secrets", that the Tornado. The Tornado happened to be the first aircraft finished for Italy. The Tonka gets even better: Learn more about our, https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/481426-east-german-mig-23mf/. It might be but imo its better than 10.7 in arb although 9.7 is a blackhole atm so who knows. German IDS: CAS Seeing as supersonic jets are now a thing, and the development may well head into the mach 2+ territory, i believe this may be the appropriate time to suggest something for the future (nevermind that such things have been suggested already,i.e. It's a multinational one. Skins and camouflages for the Tornado IDS (Germany) from live.warthunder.com. Supporter of United Korea, Commonwealth, Yugoslavia, Spain, BeNeLux, Visegrad and Swiss Tech Trees. UK ADV: well the name says it UK should also get its Tornado GR.1, with up to 20x 500lbs bombs (basically the german IDS). What do we think the price of the Tornado IDS (Winter 2022) will be? Win 9 battles (with an activity of 70% or higher). In GRB you can easily pick off enemy SPAA once you have unlocked your laser guided bombs, so try to fly as high as possibile. Later that year, the UK also joined the working group as the country itself was looking for replacements for older types. Cookie Notice "W.I.N.T.E.R." begins in War Thunder and with it comes new unique vehicles for every taste, sets of winter gears and other cool prizes with which it will be more fun to welcome 2022. Previous was an Albatros and a Soldati class with only minor armament changes as well, and a Tribal with same. It came as a replacement for the Vulcans, and complemented the Buccaneer. Thus, in 1970, development of the Tornado was begun, and in the early 80s, it entered service with Germany, UK and Italy-the countries that ended up developing it. After all, Germany has the Western and eastern side to it, and I guess the Tornado comes in after the F4F, and later they get the Mig 29 after the MLD. This gives you the advantage of team cover and a bit of safety, although you will undoubtedly be in the midst of battle once enemy interceptors and fighters reach your team. The NACA engineers made some changes, and created their own design, one which would eventually lead to the F-111. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. ADV or Air Defense Variant is based like the german ECR (both of them have no main guns) but with a full AAM Loadout Upon entering service, the Tornado was the most advanced strike aircraft in the RAF and NATO, capable of delivering both conventional and nuclear weapons with pinpoint accuracy, at low level, in all weather conditions. UK should also get its Tornado GR.1, with up to 20x 500lbs bombs (basically the german IDS). The aircraft featured Fly-by-Wire controls, a terrain-following autopilot capable of flying the aircraft at around 60 meters altitude while automatically evading obstacles, variable wing geometry and Thrust Reversers for the engines (which however are only avaiable after touchdown,similar to the Saab 37 "Viggen"s). Destroy 7 enemies with torpedoes whilst controlling a vessel or aircraft. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. and our Is it possible that the Tornado might come into the game, maybe together with things like th f 14? Britain prevailed over Germany on the crew: Germany demanded one seat, as they did in the Starfighter. Numerous concepts came about during this period, these being the swept-back, forward-swept and delta wings. I'm not complaining that we're getting it, but i just want to kinda know why it's now of all times? The aircraft was powered by two Turbo Union RB.199 reheated, three-spool turbofans; the first of its kind. [Devblog] Tornado IDS (GR.1): The European Striker, https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Tornado_GR.1&oldid=159170, * GBU-24 Paveway III cannot be equipped with bombs on hardpoints 5-6, 2 x 27 mm Mauser BK27 cannons, chin-mounted (180 rpg = 360 total), 1 x 2,000 lb GBU-24 Paveway III bomb (2,000 lb total), 4 x 1,000 lb H.E. In the end, the twin seater version prevailed once the design was finalized in 1972 and later on became the Panavia Tornado. By Tornado facts. The Tornado was made in collaboration with the UK and Italy. The device unit price (aircraft costs) was estimated at that time at 55 million DM. But this makes sense, they're only recently (this year/4th quarter last year) started with 3rd gen and vg-wing aircraft. The Panavia Tornado GR.1 was a multi-role combat aircraft, the result of an international collaboration between British, German and Italian companies which in 1969 formed the Panavia company to manufacture the Tornado. That was the F3 ADV in italian service right? Too bad it's not for all tasks but it's a good step in the right direction all the WW2 fans prefer to use T2 tanks like the early T34, panzer etc Cervomix, Hi War Thunder! Should be 8.7, but hey, 8.7 its a good br only for russian "balanced" light like the bmp2m. I don't think military secrets are an issue with adding it to the game. Lenght: 17.23m Overall (tip of pitot boom to end of tailfin), Width: 13.91m (at 25 wingsweep),8.25m (at 67 wingsweep), Clearance: 1.86m under the wingtips,1.77m under the elevators, Operating Mass: 14000 KG minimum,18700 KG with full internal fuel load,21550 KG with full internal fuel+two external tanks, Engines: Turbo-Union RB199 MK101 or MK103 with 39 KN thrust (68KN with reheat), Speed: Mach 1.1 at SL (clean),Mach 1.85 at 35000ft (clean) (17000KG), Guns: 2x Mauser BK27 (27x145mm,1100-1700 RPM,Revolvercannons),125 RPG, Missiles (Air-to-Air): AIM-9L (2x), (IRIS-T). If you think I wanna dogfight when playing the IDS, the ADV aint for you.. however if you can get 2 missile kills, and think damn if only I had more missiles the F3 will solve that for you. @BorotovasGermans used it they lost the war they didn't develop any planes on their own. All aircraft especially Italian and British types. On 26th March, 1969, Panavia Aircraft was founded between the United Kingdom, Germany, Italy and the Netherlands, though the Dutch would drop out of the program the following year. The Panavia Tornado GR.1 was a multi-role combat aircraft, the result of an international collaboration between British, German and Italian companies which in 1969 formed the Panavia company to manufacture the Tornado. from what i know, they Tested AIM-120's but never could get the ASRAAM to work but i could be worng, then your pic must be some older models brought up to F3 standard which still have guns later build versions dont have them anymore. You will just end up being an easy target for planes that focus only on dogfighting and climbing to gain an advantage. While this leaves you mostly alone and isolated from the possible support of your team, you will be able to take a more direct route to your main target, meaning you'll be able to evade any slower or unsuspecting enemies. I also like cars quite a lot. I did vote yes on your poll. The more stars - the more prizes: premium and event vehicles, special decals in the Female Warriors series and Winter gear decorations! W.I.N.T.E.R. begins in War Thunder and with it comes new unique vehicles for every taste, sets of winter gears and other cool prizes with which it will be more fun to welcome 2022. To perform these tasks, the aircraft should have high survivability and be able to fly at extreme low altitudes, with high weapon accuracy in all weather conditions. A Star will be counted as received if the achievements are coloured gold . Its first flight was 14th August 1974 and was introduced to the RAF in 1986 but its first use in combat was not until 1991 in the Gulf war and was in service until March 2019. 2. However, the UK persevered. Maybe the Tornado can top off the CL-13 line, and the GDR MiG-29 can top off the MiG-15bis line. In secluded 1-vs-1, energy trapping an opponent is a viable option. All rights reserved. Honestly, I think the Tornado should be one of the first choices to be added to the German TT, as soon as the technology in rank VI allows these sorts of planes. M.C. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. So heres a suggestion for the European swing-wing aircraft in its most common variation-The IDS (InterDiction/Strike). Apart from the original national operators, the Tornado was also procured by Saudi Arabia as its only foreign operator who commissioned 96 Tornadoes of different variants into service. Also, tactics aren't something War thunder "teams" are known for. Excluding the RAF, which retired its contingent of aircraft in 2019, the Tornado still remains in service with its remaining operators to this date - over 40 years after its initial introduction - thus truly withstanding the test of time. In 1999, the last newly built Tornado was delivered to the Saudi Arabian Air Force. Most notable, Air Combat ( have you played EC sim recently? As @Flame2512mentioned I also have proof of their declassification. The UK was left with a clean sheet. This aircraft conducts different roles to what the F-16 / MiG-29 and ADV will. :P jk, 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. The F3 is a missile boat, turns like a battleship but damn does it get missiles. Germany received 359 tornadoes from 1980 to 1991. And what about event vehicles that don't have their event named like the Hurricane Mk.I/L FAA M? Su-25T and the pre-order of the Su-39: Sergey Strikes Back! I don't see a reason why Germany needs these NATO vehicles. At the start of the development work, both a single seat and twin seat option were considered. It does essentially nothing well and is the javelin of the new age Do people even remember that, when gaijin tried to hype up the Javelin in the same patch they were introducing the Mig19 and the F100, this is exactly the same situation again. Destroy 40 enemies in AB (20 in RB, 14 in SB). Reddit, Inc. 2023. Logical addition when 4th gen jets come to the game. Since you will almost always be ahead of your team, it is advisable to throw flares when you are going to bomb a base. OS: Most modern 64bit Linux distributions. On the opposite side, East Germany used the MiG-29 during the same era, and I believe that the MiG-29 would be superior to the Tornado. And if it's potentially balanced for the current meta.We will discuss the capabilities of the Tornado AVD and its variations. Tornadoes usually hit in the afternoon and early evening . Note:This variant is also avaiable for the UK and Italy. In 1999, the last newly built Tornado was delivered to the Saudi Arabian Air Force. Do you want to see the Italian and the UK version with their loadout options (these may differ from the German Version) in their own Tech-Trees as well? Mig-23MF was exported to East Germany, like other (non WW2) Soviet vehicles in the German tree. Video Card: DirectX 10.1 level video card: AMD Radeon 77XX / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660. Final assembly took place from 1973 on the three lines in Warton (Great Britain), Manching (Germany), and Turin (Italy). So for one, it will not be much better performance wise then our Tornado GR1, its still going to be sluggish, however it will have improved engines, so it should be faster, for missiles it will have at least 4x AIM-9Ls, and at minimum 4x skyflash, potentially skyflash super temps. Ace Combat 1 The Tornado IDS (Germany) can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets: This Tornado sits at a lower BR than the other Tornados. "event vehicles" in rank I-II ar not working to complete tasks!!!! It's beautiful. Hayanami has identical torpedoes and guns to Yugumo with only 2 extra 25mm, while Pr.201K is the same ship as the 201 but with a twin 25 swapped for a single 45. The Tornado GR.1 is a rank VIII British strike aircraft Don't make a mistake in choosing between the group of achievements - pilots, tankers and sailors. WOW We can use rank I and II for some of the task! By August 1974, the first Tornado prototype took to the skies. Two stick and a rock for the entire platoon! I say absolutely yes, you have all my support! Cookie Notice F-15 and Mirage III). On the first day of Desert Storm, Tornadoes flew at low-level across the desert and bombed airbases using either JP.233 mine dispensers, or General Purpose 1000lb bombs. Jet is dead on arrival. The age of the Tornado has come. For example: Summer marathon vehicles: Type 3 Ka-Chi. The bombs and rockets will slow the plane down even more (Tornado is slower than the MiG-29), and it will be like the F9F trying to bomb AAA. Highlighted tasks can be performed not only on vehicles of rank III and higher, but also on any event vehicles (even of rank I and II)! All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. But also new trike aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Virtually identical stats if I recall. Mich_2000, BMP-2M is on 8.7 for the same reason F2G is 6.0 because players are too stupid to play it. That was a suggestion from the German section, so to be fair it won't show up in the list of previous UK suggestions. Destroy 5 enemies while on an allied point. There will be A TON of people who are able to get this one tho, Top Ten "I just started playing this month" Comments. Designs such as the VG Lightning from English Electric, the Vickers Type 581 and 583 series, Folland Fo.147 and Hawker Siddeley HS.1023 are but a few examples, but none got past the drawing board. Minimum supported resolution for the game is 720p with Metal support. Archived post. IIRC Gaijinalso said in one of the rumour roundup threads that licencing issues with Panavia were only rumours. Awesome, thanks guys! long story short: The Story of the Tornado started in the Late 60s, when Germany sought to replace the F-104G with something more suitable for their needs (primarily, delivering ordnance at treetop level and stupidly high velocities) along with Canada, Italy, the Netherlands and Belgium. Such vehicles has the event name in which it was received in its vehicle card. It's because of that I am not as vocal on the forums as I used to be we've moved past what I'm familiar with. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. Minimum supported resolution for the game is 720p with Metal support. The design was a testament to his talent, and pushed the limits of technology of the time to its limits. Then notch. In 1969, Rolls-Royce was chosen as the manufacturer of the new twin-jet engine. Six GR.1s were lost during the conflict, most famously that of John Nichol and John Peters, who wrote about their experience in captivity in their book Tornado Down. Yes,a MiG-29 will likely outdo a Tornado in air-to-air combat (though a later IDS with IRIS-T is very much going to be a major threat to the MiG),but it wont hold a candle to the Tornado in the CAS department. Twelve city blocks were left in ruins. Depends on if you mean similar role or actually super useful as tbf, the British Tornado isnt really built for the WT meta system in the GR.1 form and the ADV is would also be kind of meh for when its generation could be in the game (you could likely do similar with the Sea Harrier FA2 for long range missile shooting if thats what you want). man, Italy had over 40.000 flying hours in the F-16A, a really competent country to get the F-16. Try to support allies in air combat with missiles. Despite a disagreement over the size of the aircraft, a compromise was reached, and the design moved quickly, owing to years of effort from both the British and the German and Italian sides respectively. As they have the battle pass name on their stat card like event vehicles. A new top fighter for Italy is something very much within our plans and being worked on. Processor: Core i7 (Intel Xeon is not supported). The Coalition forces were made up of the most advanced equipment of the time, including the Tornado. Barnes Wallis is one of the big names in British aviation history. with a battle rating of 10.7 (AB) and 11.0 (RB/SB). Tornadochads stay winning! Destroy 12 enemies in one battle (6 in RB, 6 in SB). In 1995, 339 Tornado combat aircraft were in service with the German Armed Forces (Air Force and German Navy). : r/Warthunder. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Great War to today. Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar. Video Card: DirectX 10.1 level video card: AMD Radeon 77XX / NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660. We dont just add fighters to the game. Good acceleration and excellent top speed, Mauser BK27 guns have decent hitting power and ammunition capacity, Impressive bombload and access to AS.34 Kormoran anti-ship missiles, Access to two AIM-9L Sidewinder air-to-air missiles stock, slow speed helps with turning when you have manual control of sweep wing, Bad manoeuvrability, makes air-to-air combat challenging, AS.34 Kormoran missiles are rather unreliable weapon, even against the ships, Negative G manoeuvres can rip your wings off. AVROVULCANXH558, April 27, 2022 in Implemented Suggestions. The IDS would've helped the CAS gap if it was added a year or so ago, but as is now the Harrier GR.7 already fills that role better than the IDS would. Almost any hit to the center part of the Tornado will leave its speed crippled, while any hit to the wings and tail will most likely cripple flight performance, if not disabling the aircraft outright. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. Mk.13 bombs (7,000 lb total), 7 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (7,000 lb total), 12 x 1,000 lb H.E. 3840x2160. Should Germany get the mig 29. For more information, please see our Bombing using planes like the Tornado most likely won't work very well in game. 'The disadvantages have also remained: a limited number of flares/chaff charges, a limited number of weapon suspension nodes, and rather mediocre maneuverability at transonic speeds.' So the German tree will likely contain both planes. Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/A8nwsebVNvJoin this channel to get access to perks:. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. I do hope we'll see rank VI aviation evolve to a point, that'll make it possible to implement this beauty, I always loved the looks of the Tornado. Operation W.I.N.T.E.R. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. unique reward or not doesn't matter as naval is trash. in games. However, it's also a very iconic plane. Earn stars by completing tasks in the event. Reddit, Inc. 2023. Battleship Lorraine: the last French dreadnought, Missile Science: new physics with line-of-sight guidance missiles. A quick look on this possible leak that the WINTER EVENT main prize for aircraft will be the navy tornado!Join our Discord: https://discord.gg/A8nw. Powered by Invision Community. Like Gaijin represented first swing wing aircraft in face of Su-17 an Mig-23 last year. Me too! dotEXCEL, January 3, 2019 in Implemented Suggestions. Prizes received in the form of coupons will be available for trading on the market from 14th of January, 2022. However, one needs to be aware of their surroundings so as not to be third-partied while at a lower speed. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. ) for Playstation; It handles like a dumptruck with only one wheel though, so pretty identical to the MIG-31 in the game. The event tornado is somewhat decent as it sits at 10.7 instead of 11.7, though the ashm's are a bit useless unless you're actually fighting ships. Because largest player base and russian bias* respectively. You will just end up being an easy target for planes that focus only on dogfighting and climbing to gain an advantage. GL finding it in sim Its not going to dogfight well vs most targets and has 1 less gun then the GR1, however it does have the foxhunter radar, which, according to what I found online, was as least as good as, if not better then the F16 radar. Also the fact that the tornado is/was still in active service as of 2019 means they might not be able to put it in game due to various political and military secret reasons and lets face it, nobody wants to see another confidential high security documents leak to win a warthunder forumsarguement, fiasco again >.>. and if we get a late IDS with IRIS-T then you can kiss your Mig-29 goodbye. You've instantly killed what could have been a very unique and fun vehicle to play, just the same as the XM8. The Panavia Tornado is arriving soon as the new rank VIII strike aircraft in three gaming nations with the next major War Thunder update! Skins and camouflages for the Tornado GR.1 from live.warthunder.com. You could just have clicked 'more about vehicle' because there you can read and guess that it will get only 12 like the M does. It's just a more superior aircraft in my opinion. Seeing as supersonic jets are now a thing, and the development may well head into the mach 2+ territory, i believe this may be the appropriate time to suggest something for the future (nevermind that such things have been suggested already,i.e. Considering that the game is becoming ever more modern, I believe it is only a matter of time before the Tornado GR.1 finds itself in the British Tech Tree. Video Card: NVIDIA 1060 with latest proprietary drivers (not older than 6 months) / similar AMD (Radeon RX 570) with latest proprietary drivers (not older than 6 months) with Vulkan support. The swing-wing story begins in the closing years of the Second World War. DCS, F-14B, Panavia Tornado, BMPT-72, Wiesel 1A5, Puma, Marder 2, KF-51 Panther. Video Card: NVIDIA 660 with latest proprietary drivers (not older than 6 months) / similar AMD with latest proprietary drivers (not older than 6 months; the minimum supported resolution for the game is 720p) with Vulkan support. (Note that instead of each drop-tank, you can take another pair of bombs - also, where are my cluster bombs?). The GR.4s primary differences over the GR.1 include weaponry far above what we have currently in game. Privacy Policy. Buffeting occurred at high speeds on straight wing aircraft, and even had the potential to break up at higher speeds, hence, this was not seen as the way forward. So keep in mind that although the Tornado is fast, its not very manoeuvrable at high speed so try to avoid faster enemies such as the F-16 or the F-14. The device unit price (aircraft costs) was estimated at that time at 55 million DM. ", NOM1337AD, To be fair, the F-4F came from a build a bear event so there weren't as many people who played the 60 hours necessary to get one. Production was split between nations, with being Britain responsible for the cockpit and tail, as well as the vertical stabilizer. This would give both the benefits of straight wings, that is shorter takeoff and landing distances, and the benefits of swept-back wings, these being better performance and maneuverability at higher speeds. Speaking of combat scenarios, we mentioned earlier that the Tornado is an extremely versatile aircraft, but how exactly? All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. by Tony Buttler, British Secret Projects 2: Jet Bombers since 1949 Since it became very clear right from the onset that different nations had different requirements and needs for a successor aircraft, the decision was quickly made to develop a single multirole aircraft type. Powered by Invision Community, Panavia Tornado - The supersonic lawnmower, 1. Why? The Tornado IDS Marineflieger is a gift rank VIII German strike aircraft You also need to be very weary of what type of enemy air has been spawned in, if you focus too much on ground vehicles you become easy pickings for any enemy aircraft which can take advantage of you not realising they're there. It's a good addition for sure, I'm just concerned that it's not the air defense variant. Once the bases are bombed there are two options: In 1967, the countries of Great Britain, Belgium, Canada, Italy, the Netherlands, and West Germany decided to jointly develop a multirole fighter aircraft to replace the F-104 Starfighter. See forum topic https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/481426-east-german-mig-23mf/. In 1968, several countries including West Germany, Canada, Belgium, Netherlands and Italy formed a working group to explore possible options of replacing the F-104 Starfighter that all nations had in service at the time.

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